what do i do????

Hi,

I feel the need to WARN everyone after reading your comment.

Although I am willing to concur with almost everything you wrote except for one thing.

Seriously, the following is not good general advice as a write form can be formulated to what a state law allows.

“My 2 cents like I always tell anyone who asks. NEVER, EVER, and again EVER sign ANYTHING from an Employer that tells you that you are being written up or warned. Even if they threaten you with your job, if you don’t sign it.”

Write-up forms usually have “small print” and if the signing of a form does not indicate that your signature is an “admission” of guilt or agreement with the facts presented by the employer on the write up, refusing to sign can now be cause for termination for insubordination for failing to comply with a “reasonable” directive from the employer.

I suggest everyone be aware of the small print on anything they are asked to put their signature on.

When you disagree with an employer’s formal or informal discipline as “bogus” I suggest “counter documenting” and if you need more space than any “employee comments” field allows, include next to or under your signature “See My Attached Rebuttal Statement”.

This way, when you get to the hearing level and the employer didn’t include any of the documentation you provided you should have a copy just in case the employer fails to provide it for the subpoena that demands it.

This is how an employee can play on the same playing field as the employer.

When a neutral third party, such as the unemployment department or someone like me, sees “Refused to sign” where the employees signature should be when they had the ability to add comments .. the employee can automatically be seen as insubordinate or just plain obstinate.

It’s not the impression you want to make.

My 2 cents like I always tell anyone who asks. NEVER, EVER, and again EVER sign ANYTHING from an Employer that tells you that you are being written up or warned. Even if they threaten you with your job, if you don’t sign it.

Company policies are one thing, laws are another. Many employees think if i don’t sign it, it’s against the law (I have heard this before ha).

Your Employer will hand over the Write Up or Warning to HR that say’s REFUSED TO SIGN!! Then if they fire you, you bet you have ALOT of grounds for a potential lawsuit and possible unemployment. Stating I refused to sign because it was NOT TRUE!

Where the Employer gets you is this clause by Unemployment if you sign it. “Were you warned that your actions, (if not corrected) could result in termination, if they do NOT change.” Example being written up for being tardy.

They send this SIGNED DOCUMENT to Unemployment (the Write-UP) to say SEE HERE this employee signed it and they were warned.

A lot of Employers say just sign it so we know that you acknowledge getting it, and if you don’t agree you can write that.

That is wrong and sneaky. Your signature alone is enough for Unemployment to say you were warned. Especially now a lot of companies are writing up employees for BOGUS reasons, WHY, they do not want their company to be paying for Unemployment claims, their taxes go up and so does their insurance. Employers save that for the employees they like, and do not deny their claims. What do you do now. You explain to Appeals you were coerced into signing it, tell it like it is.